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  2. is Ed Hochuli trying to erase Denver-San Diego debacle with an even worse officiated game, OR did he just get a paycheck from Jerry Jones

    • I agree there are a lot of penalties, but he has only called 2, the rest is his crew. Most of them are correct though, some of the PI is questionable.

  3. Ed Hochuli incorrectly reversed the Eagles Interception and that changed the whole game. He is a graduate of University of Texas and should not be allowed to do Dallas playoff games.

    • Hey, you should not be allowed to post on this site. You cannot even get Mr Hochuli’s School right.

    • Your vision must be foggy, because the interception you are refering to was correctly overturned. He did not have posession of the ball and it grazed the ground therefore is not an interception. Learn the rules of the game before you come on here with a sore loser attitude

  4. Officiating comment:

    The officiating REALLY broke down during OT of the Cardinals-Packers game. How could the officials miss two personal foulls that cost the Packers the game??? First a helmet-to-helmet hit to Aaron Rogers and then on the final play, a face mask on Aaron Rogers. I’m not even a Packers fan but if I was, I’d really be hot. Now I know how the Raiders felt when they were “snow-jobbed”. The NFL has really got to get it together on these types of infractions–they should be reviewable!!!

    • I am a Packer fan and I am hot. It wasn’t only these missed calls but others in the game also. Fitgerald’s two TD’s were offensive pass interference that didn’t get called. And the call of roughing the passer when Cullen Jenkins was blocked into Warner. My good God. What is the NFL thinking putting the most incompetent crew together for such an important game. They should be ashamed of themselves.

  5. Dan, first of all the roughing the passer call was moot because Fitzgerald caught it anyways for the TD, which by no means was pass interference on him. Now, I agree that Green didn’t have a good season, but he did ok tonight and MARK the no facemask call was because the ball was already being fumbled so it didn’t matter what happened after that

      • I have no clue how Scott Green received a playoff assignment. He must have one awesome crew, becuase he himself as the head referee is one of the worst 5 in the league. IF Scott Green is not the worst white hat in the league than it is Ron Winters. Scott Green gave the wrong signal for an illegal substitution. He has terrible mechanics in general and you saw on Sunday that his call selection is not better.

    • Matt, on the play you and Dan are refering about there 3 possible fouls on the play. One being the roughing the passer by Cullen Jenkins which was called. However, what was not called was the hold on Jenkins by Arizona O-linemen and then the offensive pass interference by Fitz. If one or both these fouls are called the penalties offset, the score is negated, and the down is replayed. You say that it was not an offensive pass interference by Fitz, but a similar play happened in the 1:00 Patriots game. In which pass interference was called on Moss for clearing out his defender. The NFL is about consistency in their call selection and in the TD should have been cancelled and the down replayed.

    • If you know anything about football pal you would understand it absolutely did matter. The league shouldn’t go about making a point all season long that they planned better protection for quarterbacks specifically about helmet to helmet contact and facemasking in general. It is all about consistency and Scott Green and his crew have been anything but, throughout most of the season.The Packers had that game stolen from them, and the better team didn’t win period.

  6. NO WAY how could the NFL refs miss both the personal fouls first the helmet to helmet with Aaron Rogers then the face mask in the final play of the game in OT they should at least be able to review the plays I watched the packers all year and i am i die hard packer fan it is DEVASTATING to watch the whole season go down the drain just because of the stupid no calls. i love how they only call that for the ‘cool’ teams or players for that matter like the stealers and brett farve. i feal completly cheated as packer fan losing a game that you stupid refs like fitsgarald shove down woodson in the endzone to get the touchdown like what was it about 3 times Aaron Rogers got hit helmet to helmet and they were all no calls and the finial play were he got a face mask. what do you refs want to let them kill Aaron Rogers. everyone of those NFL refs should be fired but really why could they not just review the plays? i am soo pissed off at the NFL for just favoring a certain team and this hasnt been the first time i have seen that you NFL refs really got to get it together!!

  7. How could the officials not overturn that 2pt conversion attempt that was ruled a no score by McGahee? It was challenged and the call on the field stood as no score after the replay. What the heck? You could see it with your own eyes that it was successful. The facemask on Rodgers was missed in the GB-AZ game on that fumble as someone already stated. Bad non-call.

    • Warren, I agree McGahee probably got in the endzone, but Steratore did a great job not overturning it because the ball was not visible. Referees cannot assume the ball is in the endzone, thier has be visual proof and unfortunately there was none sop they had to keep the call.

  8. the GB-ARZ game was the worst officiating mr. bamboozaul has ever sceen. the NO CALL on the helmet 2 helmet on A Rodgers was a joke as well as the hands on the facemask, 2 penalties right that that should have been called in the packers favor. it will be interesting 2 see how the head of officials on the nfl network squim his way out of this one. i am no packer fan, but mr. bamboozaul have 2 admit the officials had their ski mask on, on those plays. mr. bamboozaul thinks the powers that b wanted the cardinals to play the aints, instead of the packers, pro football at it’s best, i am begining 2 believe that the powers that be wants a vikings-colts super bowl on february 7, 2010, so that farve can go out on top like elway.

  9. Wow. . what a day for the refs (mainly Arz / GB game). First, there was no defense played by either team. . .none, zilch, notta. Each team has 60 mins to execute and put themselves in position to come out on top. However, we all know the stripes can determine in the last critical moments of any close game by that judgement call. Well, today Mr. Green and his crew displayed not bad, but horrible judgement by those non-calls in the last critical moments. Would GB have won, we don’t know. I say this especially based on Mr. Rackers missing wide left from 33yds, and the way the game ended in OT. Lastly, and very happy to say, “this coming Saturday will be the last time I have to watch Kirt Warner play in the NFL”. Arizona does not play well on the road and Mr. Warner will not find any home cooking in the “Big Easy” this week.

    • Mr. Warner is one of the class acts of the NFL and a future Hall of Famer. As long as he is still breathing and throwing the football in the direction of Fitzgerald, Breaston, or Boldin the Cardinals will have a chance.

      In addition, the main call in question (face mask on the final play) made no effect on the outcome of the game as it still would have been Cards ball. In addition the face mask is after the ball was fumbled.

  10. The overhead replay showed the ball hit the ground and the Replay call was correct by Hochuli. It was not a clean interception. The Packers kept getting away with Holding in the Cardinals-Packers game. As for the last play, they grabbed Rodger’s facemask after he had already fumbled, so Arizona would still have possession. It was a post possesion change penalty. Green Bay has nothing to complain about. their defense was awful and they kept getting away with holding.

    • mark and riley – wrong, wrong, wrong. The facemask penalty occurred while the Rodgers fumble / interception was still in the air – so the penalty occurred before the Cardinals possessed the ball . The offensive team maintains possession if the fumble goes out of bounds or until the fumbled ball is recovered by the defensive team. If the penalty had been correctly called on the field, a review of the play would have given GB possession 1st down at their 39 yd line. This was clarified/confirmed today by a former NFL referee, who is now the head of Big 10 referees.

      • liveup, ever watched a Big Ten game? I wouldn’t call your source credible as these are some of the worst refs I’ve seen–they call every game in such a way that it favors Michigan the most. And before you say it, I am in NO WAY an Ohio State fan. I am just calling it how I see it.

  11. liveup. . .thank you thank you thank you. People do not know the rules. . the ball does remain with the offense until it (the ball) has changed possesions. . meaning the defense has taken clear possession.

  12. Overall, putting penalties and missed calls aside Green Bay should won the game in OT on 1st down. Rodgers had Jennings open and it would have been 6. However, the missed roughing the passer on the turnover and game winning score on 3rd and 5 did not help.

  14. It is laughable that Green Bay fans are blaming the officials for their poor defensive effort. Green Bay was lucky to get to overtime because of Rackers missing a short field goal. Then Rodgers fumbled it away in overtime.

  15. It’s not about the last play. It’s about the two Fitz TDs that should have been called back, and the helmet to helmet. THEN it’s about the no call on the facemask. It’s about calls and no-calls that CHANGE THE OUTCOME that are not reviewable. It’s about 21 points that would have been called back on those three specific plays. Sure, I agree that the Packers should have had enough D to win the game and the fault surely lies there, but if the zebras had not been asleep, it never would have gone into OT in spite of the lousy D. The game is called football but it should really be called Beat the Zebras. Make this bad call/no call stuff reviewable on scoring plays and gains of 40 plus! We can see it on our TVs now and it is making things look fixed it happens so often. I can watch wrestling for that.

  16. Saturday’s Crews:

    Cardinals@Saints
    Referee- Ron Winter
    Umpire- Bill Schuster (Winter)
    HL- John Schleyer (Boger)
    LJ- Tom Stephan (Winter)
    SJ- Michael Banks (McAulay)
    BJ- Richard Reels (Winter)
    FJ- Jim Howey (Winter)
    ALT HL- Ed Camp (Riveron)
    ALT LJ- Mark Steinkerchner (McAulay)

    Ravens @ Colts
    Referee- Carl Cheffers
    Umpire- Undrey Wash (Cheffers)
    HL- Kent Payne (Cheffers)
    LJ- Chuck Stewart (Cheffers)
    SJ- Rick Patterson (Coleman)
    BJ- Dino Pagnelli (Cheffers)
    FJ- Steve Zimmer (Riveron)
    ALT Umpire- Bruce Stritesky (Triplette)
    ALT SJ- Kieth Washington (Parry)

  17. Sunday’s Crews:

    Cowboys @ Vikings
    Referee- Walt Anderson
    Umpire- Scott Dawson (Anderson)
    HL- Steve Stelljes (Triplette)
    LJ- Carl Johnson (D. Carey)
    SJ- James Coleman (Anderson)
    BJ- Billy Smith (Anderson)
    FJ- Scott Edwards (Parry)
    ALT LJ- Jeff Bergman (Coleman)
    ALT BJ- Steve Freeman (Triplete)

    Jets @ Chargers
    Referee- Jerome Boger
    Umpire- Garth DeFelice (D. Carey)
    HL- John McGrath (Corrente)
    LJ- John Hussey (Corrente)
    SJ- Allen Baynes (Corrente)
    BJ- Greg Wilson (Corrente)
    FJ- Terry Brown (McAulay)
    ALT Referee- Terry McAulay
    ALT FJ- Rob Vernatchi (Morelli)

    • why does boger not have his own HL??

      also, all of corrente’s crew? that cannot be good for him to ref next week…i don’t see any of mike carey’s crew which basically guarantees him a spot next week…but for Corrente, ???

      only 2 or 3 in both weeks so far have been from morelli’s crew so msybe he gets the other CC…i cant fathom corrente not getting an assignment though unles he gets pro bowl…

      • Actually, this makes it more likely that Corrente will do a conference championship game. The officials in the CC games are those who are rated #2 and #3 at their position for the year. If their crew qualifies for the wild card or divisional round by being one of the top eight crews, they are replaced. This happened to Anderson in 2008 and to Triplette and McAuley in 2007. I am confident that Corrente will do a CC game.

  19. How is Ron Winter receiving a playoff assignment? He is one of the worst Referees I have seen. I think Scott Green and Winter are the two worst. They are both suspect and controversy surrounds the games they work. I hope Scott Green does not get the SB that would be the worst.

  20. Are you serious about assigning a referee Walt Anderson, a home grown Texan to be the Referee in the Minnesota vs Dallas game?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can not possibly believe their would be no bias in this playoff game. With the possibility of even one questionable or phantom call against the Vikings would create a horrendous outcry from anyone that is not a Dallas fan. Why would you even consider having someone with ties to the Texas team? This will blow up the playoff picture from the stand point of fairness to both teams and the media will have a field day criticizing your organization. I know you are going to say they are all professional and would never be biased. Then prove it and assign one from Minnesota! All you have to do is look at Andersons record and he always makes questionable and phantom calls such as holding. In todays world of big money, is this Jerry’s way of winning? Get REAL!!!

  21. Replay Officials for Saturday’s Games:

    Cardinals@Saints- Earnie Frantz (McAulay)
    Ravens@Colts- Larry Nemmers (Cheffers)

  22. It is the old saying it s not what you know it s who you. That is why some not all NFL officals are not the best the college ranks has to offer. It will always be that way. Blame the system.

  23. Replay Officials for Sunday:

    Cowboys @ Vikings- Dale Hamer (Anderson)
    Jets @ Chargers- Mark Burns (Boger)

  25. Just wondering, how many of the contrbutors to this site have ever officiated a football game at any level? Just trying to understand the basis for some of the comments.

    • I have officiated games at both the youth and high school level. I believe that some contributors may have little expertise though.

  28. Thanks Double R. Would love to hear from others. Can not understand the basis for some of the comments such as “Don is much better than Mike” in some of the posts. What is such an opinion based on (unless you are part of Don’s family)? This site has some interesting comments/opinions and I am trying to understand the basis for them.

    By the way “Aimee,” it’s Carey, not Caray.

    • Art, Who named you the spelling Police? I’m sure Aimee just made an honest mistake. No need to bash her.

    • Art,
      I am a retired kansas high school official. Officials are humans and are going to make mistakes but are normally correct. The one beef I have with the referees is when they try to make the game more about themselves than the action on the field. Mike Carey tries to be cute with the way he describes the penalty rather than just announcing it and getting back to the action. He tries to milk more camera time. In my opinion, the NFL should fire officials like Carey who think they are bigger than the game.

  31. John –

    Just trying to understand the basis for some of the comments on officiating. If you have any experience in this area I would love to hear about it. If asking the question offends you, so be it.

    • Art –

      I’m a Charger fan as well. However, that other John is off-base. Jets took it to the Chargers and the Chargers as always when the spotlight gets brighter melt down.

      That said, I think some of the basis of the comments is some think the officials job is to aid their teams to a win. Those that are applicable to that could not be more wrong. The job of the officials is or at least should be find the right balance between controlling the game and letting the players play. And whoever wins, so be it.

  32. John 2

    Well said. I don’t always agree with the NFL officials but they are eminently fair and trying to do the best possible job given the complexities of the game.

    I read this site often to see which officials will be working which games as many are friends and/or acquaintances of mine. I am always intersted in intelligent conversation regarding various matters but any such discussion must/should have a rational basis. When I see comments that appear to have no such basis (i.e., “Don Carey is better than Mike Carey” or “since he {Boger} stinks at officiating”) I wonder what basis exists for those comments. If the individual making them has spent time on the field, understands the rules and the philosphy of officiating, I am always interested in their perspective. Otherwise, they are just commenting to see their name on line.

  33. Ron Winter should not get the Super Bowl for many reasons. One being that he has already worked a playoff game (Divisional Round). Also, after botching the leg whip call in the Vikings-Steelers game this season, a call which many NFL Experts called a blatantly bad call, he is very controversial in many of his games. I would like to see Morelli and M. Carey do the conference championships. Corrente or Triplette for the Super Bowl.

    • You have to be one of the 8 refs from Wild Card or Divisional week to work superbowl. Morelli and Corrente have the CC, Triplette the Pro Bowl…

  34. I’m favoring Corrente for the Super Bowl because he is relatively unknown, which is good for a referee. If everyone knows your name, it’s usually not good.

    • He is reffing a conference championship which means he would ref one of the SB teams twice in a row, which I doubt will happen.

  35. Super bowl referee is Scott Green unless something drastically changes. This is official people.

    • not kidding, Green is actually the super bowl ref. The LJ will be Jeff Seeman from Steratore’s crew.

      • Thank you Russ. Scott Green is a pleasant surprise of getting the SB assigment. I was afraid the big ego of Ed Hochuli would get more national coverage. We would have to listen to Phil Simms talk about how big of biceps Hochuli has.
        Congratulations to Scott Green. He has had a very good year and this could be the first on many Super Bowls for Green.

  39. Eric B. –

    I find it strange that you feel that way re: Mike Carey. Having known him for a a number of years, he is anything but “camera” happy. In fact, when he was first moved to R, he had a major problem with the announcements and has worked hard to make them better. I think that every Referee, especially on the NFL level, must be self-assured and perhaps that is what comes across to you. I know of no Referee who desires “more camera time” and they are actually being told by the league to make their explanations more explicit.

  40. Saints/Vikings 1/24/2010…..we had no preference who won this game…..the referees were HORRENDOUS…..while all refs make mistakes, the golden rule is to call them equal. It doesn’t matter if they are good or bad as long as they call the game the same.

    I DEFY you to find one objective expert that believes these refs called this game fairly.

    These refs do NOT deserve their salary. They’ve already received payment elsewhere.

  41. I agree
    How can these officials review the film and say they did a competent job of refereeing the saint/vikes game

  42. Super Bowl Crew:
    Referee- Scott Green
    Umpire- Undrey Wash (Cheffers)
    HL- John McGrath (Corrente)
    LJ- Jeff Seeman (Steratore)
    SJ- Greg Meyer (D.Carey)
    BJ- Greg Steed (McAulay)
    FJ- Rob Vernatchi (Morelli)
    ALT Referee- Gene Steratore

    *What do you all think of the CREW as a whole, not just Geen. I personally think Godell chose great, but what do you think?

  43. I can’t believe the calls in the Minnesota/NO game, its like the NFL wanted to see the Saints in the Super Bowl, even though the Vikings turned the ball over several times they still got screwed on the hit to Favre below the knees with the interception(that is obvious) and the pass interference call in overtime. The Vikings dominated the Saints and were the better team, its a shame the refs had to give the game to the saints and that Brett Favre had to go out this way, he played a great game except for that last play. You suck Refs!

    • I’ll give you the Meachem replay – it looked like he did lose it. But as for the 4th and 1 when Thomas had the ball knocked a little, his forward progress CLEARLY gave him the first down. And the PI on Leber was an easy call; Thomas would have had a chance to catch it if not for the PI. Morelli’s crew did a fine job, and this is even coming from a Panther fan who can’t stand the Saints.

      • I think there are some good high def deals going on now….you should invest in a decent view.

        Morelli’s crew was ALL OVER the place on pass interference calls. They passed on obvious Saints calls until it wouldn’t be an issue for them.

  44. Suprised we have not had our referee named yet for the Super Bowl normally we would of had it by now.

    • About 6 people on this site alone have reported the ref to be Scott Green. Look about 5 posts above this one.

  46. For all the gruff Scott Green took, he and the crew did a good job in the Super Bowl. They let the teams play and I don’t think one call was missed.

  47. Where’s canterbury????… The SAINTS are the Super Bowl Champions!!! The officiating crew did a great job… they were invisible!

  48. Congratulations Scott Green for a job well done. That proves all the haters wrong. Not one call was wrong besides maybe offensive PI on Pierre Garcon. Still, Great Job.

    • Why don’t you hang it up! The SAINTS won fair and square, with no help from the officials. Why don’t you make a list of the “bad calls” the Colts got away with… you’re obviously a SORE LOSER!

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