SAT, DEC 22
Atlanta at Detroit – Gene Steratore
SUN, DEC 23
New Orleans at Dallas – Walt Coleman
Tennessee at Green Bay – Clete Blakeman
Indianapolis at Kansas City – Ron Winter
Buffalo at Miami – Walt Anderson
Washington at Philadelphia – Ed Hochuli
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh – Mike Carey
St. Louis at Tampa Bay – Scott Green
Oakland at Carolina – Jerome Boger
New England at Jacksonville – Jeff Triplette
NY Giants at Baltimore – Carl Cheffers
Minnesota at Houston – John Parry
Cleveland at Denver – Alberto Riveron
San Francisco at Seattle – Bill Vinovich (with Bill Leavy‘s crew)
Chicago at Arizona – Terry McAulay
San Diego at NY Jets – Pete Morelli
Off: Tony Corrente
CHEFFERS HAS NYG @ BAL
Not sure how Craig got that so early, but no big deal, we can confirm that here… Cheffers had two BAL losses in 2011 — at JAX and SD — but no games this year until this one…
Walt Anderson down in Miami.
Let me re-phrase that — Walt’s crew in Miami lol. Not entirely sure he’ll be there after the Week 13 confusion. Haha just kidding. Seriously though, Anderson in Miami.
Scott Green could do WSH@PHI…he’s eligible for that game.
Tony Corrente could do Pats and Jags
Jerome Boger is also eligible for that game.
Steratore eligible for TEN@GB hasn’t done game involving either team et unless he does Ten in week 15.
I guess according to Sam he is in Cleveland for week 15.
Referee is Clete Blakeman for Packers game
Clete Blakeman and Crew >>>> Packers/Titans game in Lambeau on Dec23
The SF-SEA game has been flexed into NBC Sunday Night Football in place of the previously scheduled SD-NYJ, which has been re-scheduled to 1:00 pm EST. The NYG-BAL game was moved from 1:00 pm EST to 4:25 p.m. EST. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000108773/article/ninersseahawks-week-16-game-flexed-to-snf
Ron Winter is eligible for that game.
Sterratore has Atlanta vs Detroit Saturday
Terry muclay for dallas has done one yet
You mean, “Terry McAulay for Dallas; he hasn’t done one yet”?
yes and nope
Mike Carey has CIN @ PIT
Triplette never gets Steelers games. If it’s not bad enough we get stuck with the moronic duo of Simms and Nantz calling the game every week, we kept inept officials like Morelli and Green. I am happy we actually get Mike Carey finally.
Why hasn’t carey done any skins game? Is he barred or has he rescued himself from doing said games since the late Sean Taylor’s incident?
Someone please clarify. A foul was called on the Skins and a personal foul on the Ravens simultaneously, John Parry stated both fouls off-set each other. I thought and have seen other WHs give precedent to the personal foul, and therefore, penalized the player that committed the PF. Did Parry made a mistake by calling off setting foul?
Regarding the offsetting fouls in BAL-WAS, the offense was assessed an intentional grounding penalty, the defense a roughing the passer penalty. This is not one of the instances where the personal foul overtakes the other foul. It does happen when “5/15 enforcement” occurs.
In order to have 5/15 enforcement, one team must have committed a “simple 5” foul, i.e. 5 yards only. So an illegal formation with a roughing the quarterback: the roughing penalty is enforced, the illegal formation is disregarded.
It is not a simple 5 foul for an illegal forward pass beyond the line of scrimmage, because that foul also has a loss of down.
It is also not a simple 5 foul in some cases where a change of possession occurs, but that is pretty complicated.
Thanks ben
Are you sure the penalties didn’t offset simply because of a live ball foul against the offense and a live ball foul against the defense? If it had been live ball / dead ball both penalties would have been enforced. But since it was live ball / live ball (or if it had been dead ball / dead ball) the penalties offset and you replay the down and distance from the original line of scrimmage (or if dead ball / dead ball from the new line of scrimmage). And don’t even get me started on what you’re supposed to do if the play is a kickoff or a punt or a missed field goal fielded by the defense!
Live ball/dead ball fouls are not combined in the NFL, per se. If there is continuing action after the dead ball, those fouls still get pinned to the last down and offsets any live-ball foul. A notable example (I believe last year) had the Eagles get a huge gain on a “free play” (I think the Giants were offsides). After the play, the receiver drew a taunting foul in the continuing action. Fouls offset, and the long completion was summarily erased. Even though the taunting foul happened in dead-ball time, it still offsets the live-ball foul.
An exception is made when a foul occurs in the “between-downs” period that is not part of the continuing action of the previous play. For example, if a receiver returning from a deep route walks up to the defensive huddle and deliberately bumps a player, that is a between-downs penalty, and does not offset any penalty assessed on the previous play.
Carey is known as the holding judge. Be very careful on this one.
*get* inept officials….
Ed Hochuli is eligible for CHI@AZ.
Not true. Ed lives in Arizona and is therefrore barred from doing Cardinals games both home and away during the regular and post season. Every now and then a “hometown” official will get a pre-season game but even that is fairly rare. The NFL also shies away from a “hometown” official doing a regular or post season game for a team in the same division (in this case San Francisco, Seattle, or St. Louis) but sometimes there’s no way around it.
Sorry Tom, but you’ve been mislead. There is no blanket ban on an official working the team where he lives. In some cases, an official chooses not to.
Hochuli last worked the Cardinals in 2009 (@Chicago). Many officials have worked more recently than that.
Don’t quote me on this – but I think Riveron has SF @ SEA.
Terry dallas is waiting
my guess is Pete Morelli for CHI vs AZ
Bill Leavy has yet to ref a game involving either the Vikings or the Texans this season.
Ed Hochuli will be in Philadelphia on Dec. 23rd.
Thank you Nita…
Confirmed steratore in Detroit
Ah, I apologize. Missed your original post entirely. Thanks!
Scott Green is eligible for IND@KC.
ATL @ DET = Steratore
NO @ DAL = Coleman
TEN @ GB = Blakeman
IND @ KC = Winter
BUF @ MIA = Anderson
WAS @ PHI = Hochuli
CIN @ PIT = Carey
STL @ TB = Green
OAK @ CAR = Boger
NE @ JAX = Triplette
NYG @ BAL = Cheffers
MIN @ HOU = Parry
CLE @ DEN = Riveron
SF @ SEA Vinovich ( With Leavy’s Crew)
CHI @ ARI = McAulay
SD @ NYJ = Morelli
OFF = Corrente
ATLANTA AT DETROIT 8:30 PM (ET) ESPN
SUNDAY, DECEMBER 23
OAKLAND AT CAROLINA 1:00 PM (ET) CBS
NEW ORLEANS AT DALLAS 12:00 PM (CT) FOX
TENNESSEE AT GREEN BAY 12:00 PM (CT) CBS
MINNESOTA AT HOUSTON 12:00 PM (CT) FOX
NEW ENGLAND AT JACKSONVILLE 1:00 PM (ET) CBS
INDIANAPOLIS AT KANSAS CITY 12:00 PM (CT) CBS
BUFFALO AT MIAMI 1:00 PM (ET) CBS
SAN DIEGO AT N.Y. JETS* 1:00 PM (ET) CBS
WASHINGTON AT PHILADELPHIA 1:00 PM (ET) FOX
CINCINNATI AT PITTSBURGH 1:00 PM (ET) CBS
ST. LOUIS AT TAMPA BAY 1:00 PM (ET) FOX
CLEVELAND AT DENVER 2:05 PM (MT) CBS
CHICAGO AT ARIZONA 2:25 PM (MT) FOX
N.Y. GIANTS AT BALTIMORE* 4:25 PM (ET) FOX
SAN FRANCISCO AT SEATTLE* 5:20 PM (PT) NBC
I have been coming to this site for a long time now to find out “who is where” and also for information on calls – the discussion regarding the 5/15 above is a good example. You guys are a great source of information. Just curious – where do you find all this information? I am just a fan who likes to understand how things work behind the scenes (engineer by training), and it amazes me how you put everything together in a few days.
Thanks for the kind words, Nadine.
Regarding the crew assignments, some of us know a crew member from a variety of crews. Other sources of the information include flip cards, journalists, and team employees. Starting this season, we’ve been helped greatly by visitor Bob, who posts the entire assignment list by midweek.
When it comes to discussion about rules/calls, it’s just a matter of some people having a very strong understanding of them. Ben from Football Zebras is a great example, and I’ll gladly defer to him (and others) on the more difficult questions.
Corrente and his crew were “off” last week in Baltimore too. They flat out stunk.
Corrente was in Oakland last week.
Ok…correct. It was Morelli. Pitiful. Uneven, choppy, didn’t run the game well.
This is Carey’s 2nd Bengals game this season. He worked Giants @ Bengals in Week #10.
I know there are lets of Ed’s fans out there who are convinced that he is the best and or one of the best WHs, nevertheless, I am not all thrill he is doing another Skins game so early. I would have preferred Carey, Triplette, Parry, and or even Leavy.
Ed’s crew was not up to par last Sunday night. Let’s hope for more this weekend.
That Patriots/Forty-Niners game was one of the strangest I have seen in a long time. The ball was going everywhere except where it was intended and no one could keep their hands on it. It was downright funny. I admit to being an EH fan – I admire a lot of these guys – but it was a heck of a game to call and get everything right.
Anyone know the reasoning as to why there is no Thursday night game this week and it is actually being played Saturday night instead. I realize there is no Monday night game because of Xmas eve.
All teams have played on Thursday night since there was only 13 game. The Saturday night game is a Monday Night Football Special Saturday edition.
Each team played once on the NFL Network, for the exception of the six teams that were scheduled on Thanksgiving. The Cowboys and Giants would have been scheduled twice on a Thursday, but their Week 1 season opener (on NBC) was pulled one day forward (to a Wednesday) in order to avoid conflict with President Obama’s speech at the Democratic National Convention.