THU, DEC 5
Houston at Jacksonville – Tony Corrente
SUN, DEC 8
Detroit at Philadelphia – Ed Hochuli
Atlanta at Green Bay – Bill Leavy
Indianapolis at Cincinnati – Jeff Triplette
Buffalo at Tampa Bay – Bill Vinovich
Kansas City at Washington – Carl Cheffers
Minnesota at Baltimore – Pete Morelli
Cleveland at New England – Jerome Boger
Carolina at New Orleans – Walt Anderson
Oakland at NY Jets – Gene Steratore
Miami at Pittsburgh – John Parry
Tennessee at Denver – Scott Green
NY Giants at San Diego – Ron Winter
Seattle at San Francisco – Clete Blakeman
St. Louis at Arizona – Walt Coleman
MON, DEC 9
Dallas at Chicago – Terry McAulay
CLE@NE will be flexed to 4 25 PM Est
FOX has the doubleheader this particular weekend. So if that game does have a time change, it would be 4:05, not 4:25. Plus, I seriously doubt that’s true. If there is a 1:00 kickoff on CBS that does change, most likely it would be Bills-Bucs IMO.
I think Patriots Browns will be flexed to 4:05PM Est
…and I hope Ron Winter is the referee for that game…he hasn’t officiated at Pats game yet this season!
CORRECTION: …and I hope Ron Winter is the referee for that game…he hasn’t officiated a Pats game yet this season!
CLE@NE Will be flexed to 405PM EST
CLE@NE will be flexed to 405PM EST and Bill Vinovich will be the referee
Car vs NO has been flexed to the sunday night game.
You beat me to it. Haha
Haha wonder what time the atl vs gb game will be now
The ATL @ GB game starts at 1:00 PM ET on FOX. That’s what I saw from ESPN’s NFL Scoreboard.
CLE@NE Mike Carey or Scott Green
Yeah. And on Nov 20th you said it was Vinovich. Your comments are irrelevant, idiot.
Mark is banned for a week for calling someone an idiot.
I protest the suspension in light of the fact that Lorenzo should have been banned a long time ago for his posts
If anyone deserves a ban it’s Lorenzo. And TopGun used the term “idiot trolls” on the Week 13 page, when referring to Lorenzo…who I called an idiot. I rest my case. Oh and I am one of the people who actually posts legit information.
Mark you need to banned for defending an idiot like Lorenzo.
I Meant TOP GUN SORRY MARK
That wasn’t me that said that about Mark. Lorenzo that fool needs to be banned!! Mark is legit.
Haha ok I don’t even care anymore. I just get annoyed easily by fake people.
CLE@NE Bill Leavy
Bill Leavy won’t work CLE @ NE because he did two Cleveland Browns games this season.
Ron Winter is eligible for DAL @ CHI, although he did a Week 1 Monday night game (PHI @ WSH).
Based on David’s post in week 13, Atlanta-Green Bay will have to have either Clete Blakeman or Bill Leavy since those two have not worked a SNF game, Packers home game, nor a game involving these two teams during the previous four weeks. If Leavy does Giants-Redskins in week 13, it will have to be Blakeman.
ATL-GB is not the SNF game. The game that would likely have a Referee who has not done SNF is STL-ARI since that game got flexed out
ATL-GB was the game that got flexed out.
http://nflcommunications.com/2013/11/24/week-14-flex-scheduling-december-8-panthers-saints-game-moves-to-nbc-sunday-night-football-falcons-packers-goes-to-100-pm-et-on-fox/ The games with asterisks are the games whose times have changed. I follow the Packers, I know when they play.
CLE@NE Scott Green or Mike Carey
Gene Steratore could do SEA @ SF.
Gene Steratore In NY for Raiders @ Jets .. Confirmed!
Thanks Sam.
Does anyone know if the refs are on a rotating basis to work the Thanksgiving games yearly? I have not gone back to compare prior thanksgiving day games.
Also, do the refs get to pick their bye weeks? I would think they can request a certain week off and it would be based on seniority.
Four referees have yet to work on MNF: Cheffers, Coleman, McAulay and Parry. Cheffers and Parry can both be scratched off for DAL @ CHI, since the former is already working CHI @ MIN in Week 13, while the latter worked NYG @ CHI in Week 6. Therefore, it looks like it will either be Coleman or McAulay for DAL @ CHI.
Oops…minor correction: I meant to say that three referees have yet to work MNF – Cheffers, Coleman and McAulay. Parry recently worked SF @ WSH, and he would NOT be eligible for DAL @ CHI anyway.
Prior to Week 14, Corrente and Vinovich are now the only two referees who have yet to work any Thursday games — the Week 1 kickoff, NFL Network or Thanksgiving. HOU @ JAX (this week) and SD @ DEN (Week 15) are the two remaining Thursday Night games.
Corrente worked DEN @ SD in Week 11, so it’s unlikely that he would get both games involving the Broncos and Chargers. I also doubt that he would get three Chargers’ games within one year, as he worked SD @ TEN in Week 3.
Since Corrente is already on the east coast (AZ @ PHI) and Vinovich is on the west coast (STL @ SF) during Week 13, I think that, logistically, it is a safe bet that Corrente will indeed be the referee for HOU @ JAX, while Vinovich will get SD @ DEN in Week 15.
Since Jerome Boger was off last week, here is a list of games that he is **NOT** eligible for (I’m testing to see if “strike-through” text works here):
MIA @ PIT, TEN @ DEN, ATL @ GB, OAK @ NYJ, BUF @ TB, KC @ WSH, CAR @ NO, SEA @ SF, DAL @ CHI, MIN @ BAL and STL @ AZ.
Well, I guess strike-through does not work, so, Boger IS ELIGIBLE for the other games, save HOU @ JAX.
It appears the Dallas @ Chicago MNF game will be Terry McAulay. 99% certain
My source is 46.2% positive that Bill Vinovich will be in San Diego for the Giants-Chargers game. I will keep you all posted as I receive information!!!
If that happens, then Vinovich will be the only referee not to officiate a Thursday game this season. SD @ DEN in week 15 is the last Thursday game, and this would make him ineligible.
This is a guess not based on any connections I have but the Giants have not seen Jerome Boger and while the Chargers saw Boger in Week 9 (which makes him eligible Week 14) they were away when they saw him. I do not believe the Giants have ever seen Boger twice in a season since he became a Referee so it is not like the league is trying to play with the schedule to have Boger avoid the Giants (even if a team saw a different Referee each week, they would still miss one crew) because he has seen them twice a year the last few years
Hi, gang!… back from a 50th birthday/Thanksgiving weekend and ready to get back at it! Nothing from my Ravens source yet, so let’s narrow it down: who’s eligible for MIN-BAL?
MIN @ BAL: Anderson, Carey, Corrente, Green, Leavy, McAulay, Morelli and Winter.
Corrente can likely be scratched off, as it is a strong possibility that he will be in Jacksonville on Thursday night for HOU @ JAX. Green is eligible under a five-week rule, as he worked BAL @ CLE in Week 9. McAulay is a good possibility for DAL @ CHI on Monday night.
I do not recall Ed Hochuli having a Ravens game either in 2012 or 2013.
Correct Jerry… no Ravens games for Hochuli in 2012 or 2013.
When are the Ravens going to get Winter this year? Have to be holding him for a big one, like vs NE or @CIN…
Remember the Ravens-Patriots officiated by Winter in 2009? The infamous “roughing the Brady” game.
Bengals beat writer places Jeff Triplette and crew in Cincinnati this week for Colts-Bengals.
I have not heard from my Anderson source, but when I do, I will post it here. Sorry for the delay.
Do you know the eligible referees for STL @ ARZ? Thanks
Eligible refs for STL @ ARI:
Walt Anderson.
Clete Blakeman. (Did ARI/STL earlier this season).
Carl Cheffers.
Walt Coleman.
Scott Green.
Ed Hochuli.
Ron Winter. (Did ARI/STL in 2011)
KC at Washington: Not JT, JP, TM, WC, WA, EH, JB, CB, RW
Eligible but Unlikely due to Recent Trends: MC, PM (D-Hall Incident last year).
Eligible: BV, CC, SG, BL, GS
The TopGun with the space between his name – Top Gun – is just a troll. Please everyone ignore him as he’s about to be banned anyway.
I suggest that the webmaster make posters have to log in to post. This riff raff has severely detracted from the information provided by the site
Yes that would he Mickey’s job. I appreciate all the hard work Mark, Joe P., Scott, Nita, Gerardo, Ref Fan, Sam. Sporting Becky, and TS puts into getting the appropriate and correct info.
BTW, I get my info from little green men on the Planet Krypton. Gotcha.
Told you. You can tell the troll by the space between Top and Gun. His days on this site are numbered.
Hi Mickey:
Carl Cheffers’ Crew in Washington, December 8th., (Kansas City Chiefs @ Washington Redskins).
Thank you Joe… confirmed..
Scott Green headed to Mile High for TEN @ DEN:
http://prod.static.titans.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/mediaguide/2013-12-08atBroncosReleasePacket.pdf
Still waiting on my Ravens source for MIN-BAL; slower than usual this week, so I apologize. If anyone beats me to it, it’s no big deal, just so long as the space is filled in…
Whew! Okay, now we’re back on track… the referee for MIN-BAL is none other than PETE MORELLI, who was here in Charm City for preseason Week Three, although I’m not sure if that plays into the rules somehow. Anyway, he did two Ravens games last year, Week Five in KC and Week 15 at home against DEN…
Terry McAulay is Confirmed for MNF Dal @ Chi
Confirmed McAulay will be in Chicago Monday.
Five referees are eligible for BUF @ TB: Carey (five-week rule), Coleman, Corrente, Parry and Vinovich. I know that this has already been mentioned, but Corrente can likely be scratched off, since it is a good possibility that he will work HOU @ JAX.
Only four referees are eligible for CAR @ NO: Anderson, Carey, Leavy and Parry.
Only four referees are eligible for SEA @ SF: Anderson, Blakeman, Coleman and Winter. Coleman can likely be scratched off, due to the fact that he may be in San Francisco for what will almost certainly be the final game ever at Candlestick Park (ATL @ SF Week 16 MNF).
Two more games in which only four referees are eligible: DET @ PHI and ATL @ GB.
DET @ PHI: Boger, Hochuli, Vinovich and Winter. Hochuli eligible under a five-week rule (worked PHI @ OAK in Week 9).
ATL @ GB: Blakeman, Coleman, Leavy and Parry.
Anderson has CAR/NO.
SEA @ SF is either Clete Blakeman or Ron Winter, because those are the only two refs eligible for that game.
every official for 2 games but get
Don’t forget to put up.. Gene Steratore has Jets Vs Raiders
Where is Phil Luckett this week?
From my favourite NFL team’s flip card, Jerome Boger is the referee for CLE @ NE.
http://media.patriots.com/mediafiles/2013/14/2013_14_Flip%20Card_20131204_091114.pdf
That means DET @ PHI is down to only Hochuli, Vinovich and Winter.
Hochuli did Phila vs. Oak 3 weeks ago so it can’t be him. Winter did week 1 Phila vs Wash. Thinking it’s Vinovich
Ed hochuli could be official for game Gene 2 game 2 team
Who is eligible for Bills @ Bucs?
Vinovich did DAL-DET Week 9.
Detroit at Philadelphia
Ed Hochuli
That means STL @ AZ is now down to Blakeman, Coleman, Parry and Winter.
Parry worked at Arizona earlier this year. He’s not eligible for that game.
Oops, I didn’t see that. Yeah he did work CAR @ AZ in Week 5. My bad.
Who is eligible for Mia @ Pit?
MIA @ PIT: Coleman (five-week rule), Corrente, Parry, Vinovich and Winter. Corrente can likely be scratched off (HOU @ JAX?).
Mike Carey and Bill Leavy are each eligible for only two games…Carey is only eligible for BUF @ TB (five-week rule) and NYG @ SD, while Leavy is only eligible for ATL @ GB and NYG @ SD.
Carey is likely not in San Diego. Last time he had a “home” game was 2008, and he did one more Chargers game in ’09.
No list yet.
Few more blanks to fill in, but not all of them.
HOU @ JAX (tonight) — Tony Corrente
NYG @ SD — Ron Winter
I guess that likely means two things: Blakeman for SEA @ SF and Coleman for STL @ AZ.
With that, it could probably mean that BUF @ TB is either Carey, Parry, or Vinovich. MIA @ PIT is either Parry or Vinovich. That leaves Leavy with ATL @ GB because since that game was flexed out of SNF, he can do that game since he hasn’t worked a SNF Game this season yet.
Also, that was the only other game Leavy was eligible for.
Two more confirms:
BUF @ TB — Bill Vinovich
MIA @ PIT — John Parry
If I read above correctly, we may have the two final puzzle pieces for STL-AZ and SEA-SF. Checking on that.
As well as ATL @ GB = Leavy.
Carey off this week?
Yes, because BUF @ TB was the only other game he was eligible for.
BTW, even distribution of the SNF game can’t be a concern in the league office due to the flex scheduling. The more important criteria are the 5-week gap, the home/away rule, and the known stayaways (Coleman-OAK, Anderson-HOU, Carey-SD/WAS).
Well, we know all about the “Tuck Rule” game from the 2001-02 playoffs (Coleman), and the issue with the Redskins and Sean Taylor (Carey), but I’m wondering, what are the issues with Anderson & the Texans and Carey with the Chargers?
I believe Mike Carey lives in San Diego, and Anderson lives near Houston..
Hmmm, that leads me to wonder — if Bill Leavy is from the Bay Area (San Jose), they why is he allowed to officiate games in San Francisco (Week 1 GB @ SF) and Oakland (WSH @ OAK Week 4)?
Anderson lives near Sugar Land, TX. Not sure where that is. Lol.
Sugar Land is near Houston….If that’s the case David, I guess the home town connection theory is out! Oh well!
It is not a mandate, but some officials prefer to not officiate for the home team. It becomes a little more magnified when it is the referee.
I know for a fact that Walt Anderson specifically requested not to be scheduled for Texans games when they entered the league.
do we official tonight
Tony Corrente
Confirmed the rest of the usual suspects:
STL-AZ — Walt Coleman
SEA-SF — Clete Blakeman
ATL-GB — Bill Leavy
Ben — Thanks! Those have been updated now.
Jerome Boger will be the ref of the Pats and Browns
Not sure if it has been mentioned on here anywhere, but Peter King did an incredible 3-part piece for his MMQB website about Gene Steratore. Very much recommend it to all on this site. It’s called something like “Game 150”.